24 June 2005

Notes from 22 April 2005 (CFC had invited Brian Heasley and Phil Togwell over to speak at Helix)

Hi
24/7 meeting at CFC:
Phil Togwell- discribed 24/7 as mission minded prayer, and as a group of people seeing the vision at a corporate level rather than at a leadership level- they see the body that is 24/7 as 'companions of the heart'..
He asked us "what do you want?"
Church has tried to be united for unity's sake. But let's pray together and do mision together and seek the presence of God.
24/7 is a cycle of prayer and mission.

Harry Smith- we are in a painful process, birthing something (Is66 6:7 "Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. ISA 66:8 Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.ISA 66:9 Do I bring to the moment of birth and not give delivery?" says the LORD. "Do I close up the womb when I bring to delivery?" says your God.

So what's the cost? Cost is high but grace is enough. But what about the giants -we don't need to be giants to face giants

Brian Heasley- There is a difference between a prayer room and a Boiler room. A place of prayer and love.

I (Mark)think the question we need to ask (that wasn't asked on Friday) is
· "are you/we [am I] ready to pay the price?"

It would seem that those keen to see a Boiler room in Belfast should get together, a lot of those there today were people who had done or were doing 24/7 events; although Gareth from Dungannon is well on his way to seeing a Boiler room there.

2 things of note from the later Helix session in CFC. Brian Heasley said:
· 'God is looking for donkeys to carry Jesus into our cities'. and
· that he was 'called to Ibiza to plant a missional community'
David Hines said he didn't want to do a Boiler room in Belfast for the sake of doing a Boiler room. He is right we need to be involved in this for the sake of the Kingdom, not because it is the next great idea to come along, but because we know that we know that God has said it.
1. Has God said it?
2. Has God said it to you?

Are we to be part of establishing a missional community in Belfast that will not just take the Gospel to Belfast but to Ireland, Europe and from the outer most parts of the world back to Jerusalem?
Patrick thought that when he had reached all of Ireland (which he considered the outer most part of the world) that Christ would return. However, in the interveening time people groups have developed who have not heard the Gospel in the areas where once the Gospel was known and now need to be re-reached so that we will see Christ return in our generation.
Patrick reached all of Ireland as did Wesley in the 18th century, but succeeding works have not significantly reached the catholic community of Ireland...Come on! Lets see that happen.

Its church Jim but not as we know it...yes Boiler Rooms are not churches, but what are they if they are not? Is it not that they are church in the true sense of the word; a group of people in community that are seeking to fulfill the Great commission of Jesus, to go make disciples of all nations.

Fathers...I was not exactly the oldest person at the Helix conference at CFC but I did sense that God was saying that we, who are older, are to be parents, fathers and mothers to this emerging generation.

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